Sunday, November 20, 2005

Where is the line drawn?

There was a story that Glenn Beck covered on his program on Thursday which I found interesting. It was the story of Andrew Stimpson, 25, of London. Stimpson was told in 2002 that he was HIV positive. You can read the whole story here, or summarized below.

Stimpson, diagnosed as HIV positive in 2002, had struggled with himself after the diagnosis. He wondered where he got it, and had suicidal thoughts to spare himself the pain associated with treatment and continued life with this disease. In a follow up visit to the clinic a year later, they told him he was free of HIV, that he exhibited no signs of the disease. The scientific community has had doubts on this one. The clinic doctors insist that he had HIV, other doctors doubt he ever had the disease.

Regardless, the scientific community has courted this man for more blood samples, in the event that he has the genetic cure, that his body produced the antigen capable of fighting HIV and winning. Stimpson’s response? “No, Thanks.”

What makes this an interesting topic is where to go from here? Here is a man who may have the possible cure for 35 million people. The doctors don’t want a liver, or his brain, or anything. They just want some blood, yet the man refuses. What can be done? Can the man be forced to give the samples, or should his rights be respected, that the government cannot tell some one what to do with their own body? But he may have the cure to save 35 million people. Where is the line drawn between personal rights, and saving 35 million people? This is not a war, mind you. This is a cure for a disease that is easily preventable, that doesn’t have to spread anymore than it already has. Look forward to a spirited discussion on this one…

4 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Iron Head says....

This is the point that we have gotten to in this world. A man possesses clues to one of the most feared diseases in the history of man, and finds it in his feable brain to deny the medical community....A BLOOD SAMPLE????

I don't even know what to say. I want to know what this guy feels is so bad about giving a blood sample? If he thinks this disease is so horrible, why would he not want to allow any tests they choose to do on him? If any reasonable person had cancer, for instance, and were told that some tests could be done to hopefully unlock answers to its origins, they would surely allow it to happen.

We should not allow him to reproduce. BRING BACK EUGENICS!! EMH

10:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm really not anonymous either. This is Angie in Texas. How are ya’ll doin’? The first thought that came to my mind was ... why would this person refuse further testing? Would he behave the same if he were miraculously cured of cancer? The only thing that I can think of is a few blood tests could turn into more intensive testing. That could happen … or maybe not? I think more intensive testing would be a concern for me. I think it would be a legitimate concern for anyone. I don’t think that would deter me from donating some of my blood that may help scientists cure a disease that has been around for 20-30 years and has taken thousands (maybe millions?) of lives. Maybe the asshole was afraid further testing would conclude he really did have HIV? According to the BBC doctors insisted he was negative. So what is the harm of further testing? Whatever the motive, I think it is selfish. The dude needs to have his head checked. If I were one out of 35 million people to be cured of AIDS, not knowing what cured me, I would take any necessary steps to help doctors find out what cured me. That’s all I have to say … right now …

9:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brutha A-dogg, chimin' in:

As you all think about this situation, I urge you to take a look at some information. There are a number of scientists that don't believe that HIV causes AIDS... or that it really even exists.

http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/
http://tperkins.com/aids/hivaids.htm

Now, I'm not saying these people are right, but it's something to consider.

This guy shouldn't be REQUIRED to give a blood sample, but if he really was a worthwhile human being he'd do it.

One last thing to think about... even if a cure existed, would the majority of those infected (Africans) take the drug? Or would it be against their culture to do so? They certainly refuse to take any measures to protect themselves and others from the disease, so why would they accept a cure?

Just some thoughts...

-Andy

12:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Skoght says......

There is no law against being a jerk, especially a British jerk. I do here the Irish are considering such laws just to one up the British though...

I don't think he should have to give blood, mostly because I belive it to be a mistake. What are the odds one of the labs was inept vs it being a miracle. My bet is on ineptitude covering the spread.....

Even if it is not a mistake, the duty an individual has to their country is far less than the duty the country has to the individual (in our country, we have all these "rights", but how many "rights" does the government have (only the ones given to it by the people, and can be taken away)). So the country is owed nothing.

That leaves the duty of care owed to fellow man. While there is no legal course of action that can be taken to compel this individual to do what is right, his fellow man can compel him by beating it out of him.....

On Andy's thought, I have heard in the past that many Africans sell their medication on the black market because who needs your health when you have no food? No they use the money to buy food for the family....

That's all I got.....

4:13 PM  

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